1987 vs. 2003

I really didn't know where else to post this. A very well-informed YouTuber puts his take on comparing the two TMNT cartoons, and I think he makes a lot of valid points, his opinions certainly not unfounded. Now, I'm sure you guys are bright enough to navigate the videos on your own, but here's all of them. You know, just in case.

Introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvP7ASrmg8

Theme songs, action, comedy (and video games):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hnCPbh1f7I

The Turtles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa-nQk15ZBo

Splinter and April:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc09K4KWync

Casey and Usagi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoNvQVQFU7Q

Baxter and Triceratons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggZw_tyQqA

Rat King and Leatherhead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm4KBYB8nw

The Shredder - Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfSWsBB3sQY

The Shredder - Part 2:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa7tym_classic-tmnt-vs-new-tmnt-part-34

Battle Cries and voice acting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYsPieWETg

I'm on my DSi right now, so I can't check them out, but I'm pretty sure I've seen them. They're really good and I agree with most of the points made. Though I do prefer the 2k3 voice actors, but you know... it doesn't matter. The 1987 ones are still great.

I like the 2k3 series the most. The 1987 series is funny and charming, but it is, to me, cringe-worthy. The 2k3 series is just... wow. Shazzam.

But you can't really say one's better, as it is just opinion. =/

I can't say it's "Shazzam." It's missing the violence, blood and stealth for me to consider it quite up to that level. More than anything, I view it as a step in the right direction.

ok ok ok i fell kinda cheated. i did this same poll months ago..... but i didnt post links like you did. i feel cheated in a way. thats ok tho

anyways 2003 is what i grew up with and i always loved waiting every saterday for the new episodes. the old one i just bought dvds and i wouldnt have to wait a week to see the next episode.

and ive also seen all these vids pretty interesting actually.

Well, I just simply adore both versions but for me, the 2003 version wins. The 1987 version was funny and entertaining and for me, it´ll always be a good childhod memory but I prefer the newer version cuz it´s more realated to the comics and it has more actions scenes. Although, I think the jokes from the new version are corny. The voice cast´s pretty good on both versions so, I can´t decide what´s the best.

Genesis wrote:

I can't say it's "Shazzam." It's missing the violence, blood and stealth for me to consider it quite up to that level. More than anything, I view it as a step in the right direction.

I suppose so, but if you're a person who likes the lack of blood, it is shazzam. :>

Not that I hate blood or anything. Excess amounts, yeah I don't like them, but it doesn't bother me.

I prefer 2k3 over the eighties cartoon any day, NICK DON'T YOU DARE SCREW UP!! O_O

turcosoup wrote:

ok ok ok i fell kinda cheated. i did this same poll months ago... but i didnt post links like you did. i feel cheated in a way. thats ok tho

Whoops. My bad. Had I seen your poll, I'd have just replied and posted links from there.

Genesis wrote:

turcosoup wrote:

ok ok ok i fell kinda cheated. i did this same poll months ago... but i didnt post links like you did. i feel cheated in a way. thats ok tho

Whoops. My bad. Had I seen your poll, I'd have just replied and posted links from there.

that was a while back when i first got here

I wish they'd make a TMNT on CartoonNetwork's AdultSwim, that way it could be exactly like the comics. Dark, edgy, and actually show blood. I'm not a very gory person, but idk. So much cutting and fighting with no blood just feels little kid-ish and fake at times.

Anyways, I like the 2k3 series the best. It might not be fair for me to judge though, I'm kind of bias. Like turco, waking up early in the morning to watch a new TMNT episode was the highlight of my week for years. I've seen a couple of 1987 episodes, but couldn't get into it, not after watching such awesome animation and growing up with series characters.

Leo'sGirl wrote:

. Like turco,

i love it when people call me turco.

yeah so your new here? welcome to the tmnt forum and you should probably introduce yourself in the introductions area here so everyone knows your new or whatever. lol

yeah so have fun here!
tmnt forum! we know justice

That we do. And as far as the Adult Swim (or perhaps a more viable network) idea is concerned, you're not alone.

Lol thanks guys! It's nice to be able to discuss TMNT with people who actually understand what I'm talking about. Thanks for letting me know about the introductions area. I appreciate it!

is this your first forum?

Yeah. I love it though, it's so cool!

Leo'sGirl wrote:

Yeah. I love it though, it's so cool!

yes You're right
I prefer the 2003 serie, it's better for me, but the best is the junction between the first and second, like film turtles forever

Definatly! The only things I didn't exactly care for were Karai suddenly being good and Dan Greene playing the 1987 Leonardo. I'm not sure why but that didn't sit very well with me.

Leo'sGirl wrote:

Yeah. I love it though, it's so cool!

You're adorable.

As for Karai "suddenly" being good in Turtles Forever, it was because she saw through the Shredder's blind obsession to kill everything related to the Turtles. And also because she, on some level or another, cares about them - Leonardo in particular. So it wasn't really out of nowhere. I have more trouble accepting her quick switch to becoming the Shredder to avenge him, or whatever. Seemed to me that she knew the Turtles better than that by that point, and especially after "Prodigal Son," it seemed out of her character to simply hunt the Turtles like that.

That's very true. Recently, I actually watched Exodus pts 1 and 2 as well as Prodigals Son to try and figure out what she was thinking. I think when Leo ignores Karai and goes after the Shredder in Exodus, she feels betrayed, like he's choosing hunting down her father over her. Maybe not, but that's my theory.
I guess my point about Karai in TMNT Forever was that you'd think she would have picked a side by now, Turtles or Shredder. After the 5th season it seamed (at least I thought) as if she'd picked Turtles. But then you see her helping Shredder in TMNT Forever, so you think "Oh, ok, guess she's still loyal to Shredhead." Then she betrays her father. By that point I was just going "Uh, what? Would you make up your mind already?!"

She probably had an underlying loyalty to the Shredder. :/ Like she still loved him but wanted to do 'good' while he was gone.

'Sides, he would have found her sooner or later. She was probably going to him in order to get into his good books.

Yeah, that would make sense. Karai is one of the most interesting and confusing characters in TMNT, which is probably why I like her so much.

I love Karai. <3

We all do. Or should.

Meh. She´s alright. Sometimes, I don´t like the way she behaves towards the turtles or the Shredder.

I liked her comic book persona. She's not so much on the betrayal thing.